Friday, March 30, 2012

Any tours that combine Bavaria castle with luge rides

I%26#39;m looking for a sightseeing tour that would combine a trip to a castle in Bavaria with one of the luge rides. Do any exist?




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Does it really have to be a tour?



Without searching yourself to death it is easier to just go to Fuessen by yourself and do all the things you want to do on your own schedule.




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No. I guess the majority of the tour bus users are not interested in a luge ride.





You can do this easily by yourself using public transport. This will be also cheaper.





DB timetable



http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/en



From: Munich



To: Hohenschwangau



To: Tegelbergbahn





Hohenschwangau is the bus stop close to the ticket center for Neuschwanstein and Hohenschwangau castles.



http://www.neuschwanstein.de



http://www.hohenschwangau.de





Tegelbergbahn summer luge



tegelbergbahn.de/sommerrodelbahn-tegelberg0.…





Distance Hohenschwangau to Tegelbergbahn is 3 km. Thus also something you can walk.





You can make this trip on a Bavaria Ticket. A day ticket covering all regional trains in Bavaria. Also the buses to Hohenschwangau or to the Tegelbergbahn (valley station). And the S-Bahn, U-Bahn, trams and buses in Munich. This ticket is valid



Mo-Fr: from 9am till 3am next day



Sa,Su: from midnight till 3am next day



Bavaria Ticket Single (1 person) EUR 20,00



Bavaria Ticket (2-5 persons) EUR 28,00

Paris to Berlin - Suggestions

Hello folks. I%26#39;m in the early stages of planning a November trip that will include a visit to Berlin (and Wittenberg). I%26#39;ll be coming from Paris. I thought I%26#39;d just take a train (a day train, I%26#39;m at the point in my life when sleeping in a chair on an overnight train is not my idea of fun).





However, I can%26#39;t seem to get the train web site to actually give me a price for the trip. Also, it looks like Air Berlin can get me there for about $88 USD.





So...what is the train trip likely to cost me (I know it%26#39;s a long trip, but I was almost looking forward to the scenery)? Would I simply be better off taking a flight? Money is not the only issue, but a part of the decision.





Thanks!




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DB timetable



http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/en



From: Paris



To: Berlin





Discounted specials start from EUR 39,00. They are limited in numbers and sell fast. You can book at earliest 89 days in advance.




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Thanks for the reply. When I use that site, above the purchase button is the note %26quot;Total fare cannot be calculated%26quot; or I go to booking, it says %26quot;Information about fares not possible%26quot;.





I think it doesn%26#39;t like me.




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To see prices you have to use a date inside the 89 days period. E.g. a day in October.

Getting from Schoenfeld Airport to Adina Hotel C/Charlie

Hi peeps. We%26#39;re travelling from the UK in November and arriving at Schoenfeld and staying at Adina Hotel Checkpoint Charlie. As it is our first stay in Berlin, i was wondering how to get to the hotel, and by the cheapest means. I%26#39;ve been quoted £105 return by the tour company, and that seems way expensive!



Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated!! :)




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BVG timetable



fahrinfo-berlin.de/Fahrinfo/bin/query.bin/en



From: SXF



To: 10117 Berlin, Krausenstrasse 35



To: Berlin Alexanderplatz





Single ticket is EUR 2,80.





Alternatives:



a) train to Alexanderplatz station and from there by taxi



b) taxi from Schönefeld Airport (approx. EUR 30)



There are always taxis waiting there. The taxi tariff is set by the city (depends on driven distance and waiting time). No local would order a transfer service for this, alone that this is much more complicated as you need a meeting point. This won%26#39;t be in front of the doors. This space is reserved for public buses and taxis. And the taxis are there for everybody. First come first go. Also a taxi cannot use a taxi booth to wait for a specific customer.




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Thanks so much. That%26#39;s very helpful info. Is the train station far from the airport, and where would we get off?





Thanks again :)




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map Schönefeld Airport



flughafen-berlin.de/EN/…OeffentlicheSXF.html





map Alexanderplatz station



bvg.de/index.php/…alexanderplatz.PDF





%26gt; Where to get off?



Where the timetable tells you. The stops will be also announced and shown on displays.





Note: Query the timetable again only a few days before you arrive in Berlin. Due technical problems with the S-Bahn there will be for the next time (till December) ongoing timetable adjustments effecting also other types of public transport.




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Thanks again. Much appreciated! :)

travel by train from Zurich

Has anyone traveled by train to Triberg from Zurich?



We have visitors coming in and it would be easier to go on the train. Any other suggestions about Triberg?

Places near Berlin to visit?

Hello.





I am going to spend 7 days in Berlin with my wife and two daughters at the end of August. I would like to know which places are also interesting to see in the surrounding area. I want places not too far thinking in returning to sleep in Berlin every night.





Postdam is one place. Could someone suggest me other places?





Regards from Spain.




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Hi,





for something a bit different, try the %26quot;Spreewald%26quot;



situated 100 km south-east of Berlin and designated a biosphere reserve by UNESCO in 1991. Basically, it is a labyrinth of rivers and travel is done by boat. The area has its own language, culture and food and is completely unique. You can take a train from Berlin to Lübben or Lübbenau which will take just over an hour. Once there, take a boat trip through the area (there will be many to chose from of varying length). Make sure you try the speciality, a pickled gherkin. All the boat tours will have a gherkin stop where you can try different pickles and also one or two liqueurs of the area .... You could also rent bikes and explore the area. I think 5 - 6 hours will just give you enough time to explore one of the village, do a boats tour and get active (you can also hire canoes). This would be completely different from Berlin and quite some experience. You didn%26#39;t say how old your daughters were but I am sure they would enjoy this!





Here are some web pages:



http://www.spreewald-info.com/en/index.php



www.spreewald-web.de/index.php?id=10%26type=1





G




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First of all, there is the obvious: Potsdam and Oranienburg are both within a short train ride from Berlin. Both are interesting, but of different reasons: Potsdam is full of palaces, parks, etc.; Oranienburg is the location of the Sachsenhausen Concentration Camo Memorial. There are tours leaving from Berlin to both locations:



http://www.insidertour.com/





Spreewald mentioned before is also a good idea (especially if you have a car).





You can also reach Dresden or Leipzig and return within the day, but there are so many sites to see in both cities that I am not sure if it is not better to go specifically to these places.




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Thank you for yours advices.





My daughters are 13 and 8 y.o. I have been reading the links about Spreewald, and this trip seems to be wonderful.





Dresden and Leipzig were my first options, but I believe that are too far and also are too big to see only in one day.




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Also, with the Spreewald excursion you will get something completely different to Berlin, so I think it would be a good choise. I was there last year, just overnight and for one day and it was quite an experience.

16 blokes with bad sense of direction need some advice.....

Hi folks,



Myself and about 15/16 mates are heading to Berlin in November this year and I need some help.





Basically it%26#39;s my stag and what we are looking for are some local Berlin bars/pubs in close proximity to each other where we can head (after the sight seeing of course) for a %26#39;few%26#39; drinks,mingle with the local Berliners,bit of a laugh etc.





As I%26#39;ve never been there before I initially started looking around the Der Mitte/Orianburger Strasse but I%26#39;m starting to get the impression that this is more of a tourist trap in that there are lot of cocktail bars,themed pubs,cafe%26#39;s,Irish pubs (plenty of these at home) which we are trying to avoid - could be wrong though?





Should we maybe head towards Friedrichshain,Charlottenburg,Schoneberg,Kreuzberg?I%26#39;ve seen them recommended in other posts.





I%26#39;d really appreciate anybody%26#39;s recommendations - best area to stay in,name of bars,hotels etc....best recommendation%26#39;s can come on the stag too!





Cheers,



Mark.




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Hi GalwayRed. Heres something you may want to consider. When I was over a couple of years back I did the walking tour with New Berlin (see link below) checking out all the historical stuff. Anyway, during the tour they asked if anyone was interested in doing the football tour (a day out to see Hertha Berlin and a few beers) or the evening pub crawl. We were pre-booked so couldn%26#39;t take up the offer but later that night we bumped into a group of about 30 who were on the crawl. They were from all corners of the globe and were having a ball and I was kicking myself for missing out. I could imagine the group of you having a great crack with these people as they stop at the most popular haunts. I have copied the web link below if you are interested.





www.newberlintours.com





PS We spent a fair bit of time around Orianburger Strasse and thoroughly enjoyed ourselves.




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Some ideas:





A Night on the Town



http://www.insidertour.com/tours.php/cat/71/aid/21/title/Night_on_the_Town!





A Pub Crawl



insidertour.com/tours.php/…Tourdetails





Stag Parties ideas



http://www.gablinger.com/stag.html





And more Stag/Hen ideas...



tripadvisor.com/Travel-g187323-c20197/Berlin…





I agree that the Oranienburger Strasse is a bit cheesy. I like the following night life spots (but must admit I a nerd, so don%26#39;t listen much to me :-)



- Oranienstrasse in Kreuzberg



- Gruenbergstrasse in Friedrichshain



- Kanstanienallee and Kollwitzplatz in Prenzlauer Berg





As for hotels, I have several ideas for you...




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Thanks for the reply%26#39;s Camjar and Lylou.





Particularly interested in what area%26#39;s to stay in.With it being 16 lads in a fairly big spread out City like Berlin we don%26#39;t want to have to travel too far for a decent bar as I reckon we could lose a few on the way.





I%26#39;ll check out your suggestions and thanks again.




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I was last in Berlin a couple of years ago. We got chatting to some locals who reckoned (and this is purely subjective), that the best nightlife was in the old east side of central Berlin.





We spent our eve%26#39;s around Hackescher Markt, and recommend it. Lots of bars and restaurants within walking distance. There are about five underneath the arches of Hackescher Markt station, and I have drunk and eaten in all, and can recommend all of them.




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It all depends what you want.





Oranienburger strasse is a bit like temple Bar in Dublin...a whole street of bars and restaurants....not particularly frequented by locals and all a bit %26quot;generic%26quot; ...it also becomes lined with hookers later in the evening though if that%26#39;s your thing..





I think as some others have suggested...Kreuzberg area..oranienstrasse...skatlizter strasse...around Kottebusser Tor...is very good for down and dirty bar%26#39;s and rock/punk clubs...looks dingy but quite safe.





Fredrichhain is also good...Simon Dach Strasse has lots of bars and restaurants as does Boxhagener strasse





Prenzlauer berg too...the Kulturbrauerie and surrounding area...kowilitzplatz





I%26#39;m goin in November again too !





Enjoy




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Thanks for the suggestions folks.We ended up booking a hotel in Friederichshain - seems to be a good location for bars etc and if we end up travelling further afield we%26#39;re fairly centrally located.I%26#39;ll let you know how we go.Thanks again!

Park and ride options when arriving in Dresden via E40/A4

We will be travelling from Bamberg to Berlin and hoping to make a stop in Dresden, with limited time available. Hoping to find a Park and Ride option directly off the route (E40/A4) in order to avoid driving through a new city and wasting time locating parking. Would appreciate any recommendations where we can park easily and catch a direct tram into the old city. Thanks for any help.




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Take exit Dresden-Neustadt. The Park + Ride parking lot is signposted. From there take tram #9 into the city and get off at Theaterplatz square. Before entering the tram purchase a family day ticket (for 2 adults and up to four kids) for the zone Dresden. Fare is 6.50 Euro. Validate in the tram upon entering (stamp).




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Thank you! Looking forward to seeing the city.

Ryanair

Hi



Im going to Munich in a couple of weeks and I am flying with Ryanair. Can anyone tell me how far out of the city is the airport that Ryanair flies into? Is there a train I can get into the city? How long would the journey take and also if there is a car hire firm in this airport?



thanks!




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Ryanair doesn%26#39;t fly to Munich! it can be either Memmingem or Salzburg - both are 1,5-2hrs away. For trains have a look at db.de




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no idea about db.de, but %26quot;www.bahn.de%26quot; will work. It has English- tab at top.



I think you%26#39;ll be flying into Memmingen, which is a bit like terming Cork as Dublin South.





It does have facilities but %26quot;primitive%26quot; is a good word for it.




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Mostlikely this is the Allgäu Airport in Memmingen, as Rynair sells this airport as Munich West.







DB timetable



http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/en



From: Allgaeu Airport



To: Munich




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Charbyrne, since you were able to book with Ryanair maybe you could have checked the destination page on their website, it says the following:





Memmingen Airport is a small public airport located in the town of Memmingerberg in close proximity to the city of Memmingen, Germany, in the Swabia region. It is one of three commercial airports in Bavaria and the has the highest elevation of all of Germany%26#39;s commercial airports. Prior to 2008-09-25, it was known as Allgäu Airport/Memmingen.



Located about 2.5 km from the city centre of Memmingen and 100 km from the city centre of Munich, it not only serves Memmingen and the Allgäu area but also provides a low-cost alternative to Munich Airport.



www.ryanair.com/site/EN/dests.php?loc=FMM





As for car hire, Hertz, Avis and Sixt are on site.




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*chuckles* ryanair is great isnt it... cheap flights to the middle of nowhere... on very hard and very small seats... at least by the time you arrive in Munich you will be nice n thirsty... if you take the train to munich make haste to the Augustiner and quench your thirst while thinking of all the money you saved by flying with the great ryanair... Prost! :)




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alabada... memmingen is %26#39;munich west%26#39;??? crikey... is salzburg %26#39;munich east%26#39;? cheeky calling memmingen %26#39;munich%26#39;... good for ryanair, crap for tourists...




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At least Memmingen is west of Munich. And it%26#39;s closer to Munich than Hahn is to Frankfurt.





Memmingen airport is approx. 2,5 times more distant from Munich than Munich Airport. While Hahn is 10 times more distant from Frankfurt than Frankfurt Airport.





Similar problem with other Ryanair airports like Barcelona (Reus) or Oslo (Torp).




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not only Munich West, but Stuttgart South. And Salzburg is Wien Nord and Praha Sud.





Just kidding! ( I think)



Which area is better for restaurants/beer halls?

For access to restaurants and beer halls, is it better to be nearer the Viktualienmarkt or nearer the Maximilianstrasse? Thanks.




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Anywhere central is close to beer and food... makes no real difference...




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That area would be called %26quot;Munich%26quot;.





I%26#39;d recommend nearer Viktualienmarkt; Max Str is high-endish, and not a haunt of your beerhall buzzards. But they%26#39;re only 5 mins walk apart in reality.

what is there to do on 7 hour layover in Munich

i%26#39;m gonna have a 7 hour lay over in Munich, whats there to do for 7 hours, i arrive in Munich on September 21 around 8:00 AM and my flight departs Munich on the same day 3:20 PM




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That%26#39;s pretty short, but you could have a quick look at Oktoberfest (only takes about 40 minutes by S-Bahn to get there). But after a few 1 liter beers you might miss your 3pm flight :-)




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easy peasy... jump in a taxi and go to Freising... wander around the old town then visit one of the oldest breweries (Weihenstephan) and relax... if you are an adrenalin junkie you could do a splash and dash to central Munich but if like most americans you are flying off to austria or out of germany then you will need to pass thru customs and be back 2 hours before your connecting flight leaves.. that leaves you 4 hours realistically to do it... i woulnt see the point... so try Freising...




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walk around the centre and visit Hofbräuhouse (the beer hall in city, not the Oktoberfest tent). You can have a glimpse at Oktoberfest - it%26#39;s only couple of stops from Marienplatz, the very centre of Munich, but there is no reason to start there otherwise you really miss your transport.




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Hi,





I%26#39;d agree with getting a taxi to Freising. It%26#39;s very close to the airport (about 10 to 15 minutes) or perhaps the old town of Erding (which is about 15 to 20 minutes away). We took a taxi from the airport to Erding and it cost the 2 of us 20 Euro.



If you don%26#39;t want to stay in the airport, I%26#39;d spend the roughly 40 Euro (round trip cost) on a taxi and see either Freising or Erding. Tis way you%26#39;ll spend more time in one of these places rather than spend and hour plus in transit back and forth to Munich.





Paul




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You can also go by bus from the airport to Freising.





This direct bus (#635) runs every 20 minutes throughout the day (with a break only from 1am to 4am). Travel time is 18 minutes. Single ticket is EUR 2,30. A mini group (2-5 persons) day ticket is EUR 9,00.





Freising information material



www.freising.de/index.php…




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thanx every 1 for the help.





i%26#39;m gonna be there in September, isn%26#39;t the oktoberfest not in Oct.?????





i%26#39;m gonna be there with 20 something friends.



whats the best to do with 20 friends?




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oktoberfest is Sept 19 - Oct 4.



Best thing for 20 people is get 4 partnerkarte on the train ( S bahn) and ride into town. Leave 1 hour for the journey back to airport and go visit Hofbrauhaus or whatever takes your fancy- incl Oktoberfest, according to taste.




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%26gt; isn%26#39;t the oktoberfest not in Oct.?????



No. It ends first weekend in October.



19. September - 4. October 2009



Historically it lasted first only one weekend. This period was extended later into September as the likeliness of nice weather is there higher.





But I would not go with 20 persons to the Oktoberfest. There is no way that the group can stay there together. Oktoberfest is big and crowded. Not if you want to see your group again in time at the airport for the next flight.





I would go to Freising. It will be easier to hold your group there together.



www.freising.de/index.php…





With 20 persons you could buy 4 mini group day tickets (each EUR 9,00).




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Thanks everyone for the help.





what is there to do in Freising, how far from Freising is the oldest brewery (Weihenstephan), how long does a tour in the brewery take? and how much do they charge? how far is the centere? which one should i rather go? city centere or Freising?





which one should i rather go Freising or Erding? and whats there to do in Erding? how far is it from the airport? can i do both?





and we are 20 something people, where ever we go should we rather take the bus or taxis?




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Abalda already explained how to get to Freising so I won%26#39;t do it again. On what to do in Freising you could also have a look at the link she gave. Or look at TA%26#39;s pages about Freising and Erding. Btw, doing both would be stretching it, since you%26#39;re short in time and probably don%26#39;t want to miss your flights.



As for the Weihenstephan brewery, you could have googled it to get more information... anyway here%26#39;s more about the tours:



Guided Tours:



1. Guided brewery tour (duration 60-70 min):



6 € incl. 2 € - voucher for the Weihenstephaner beverage shop (beverages %26amp; advertising media)





2. Guided brewery tour incl. beer tasting session (duration approx. 120 min):



9 € incl. pretzel and 2 € - voucher for the Weihenstephaner beverage shop and a glass with nostalgic motif as a gift





Tour hours:



Mondays: 10.00 a.m.



Tuesdays: 10.00 a.m. and 01.30 p.m.



Wednesdays: 10.00 a.m.



Number of persons:



Groups of at least 15 persons



- max. 40 persons;



Individual visitors are joined to groups.





Guided brewery tour only after prior appointment:



Bayerische Staatsbrauerei Weihenstephan



Alte Akademie 2



D-85354 Freising



Phone: +49 (0) 8161 / 536 - 0



Fax: +49 (0) 8161 / 536 - 200



E-Mail: info@weihenstephaner.de



www.weihenstephaner.de

Paris-Geneva-Paris

Help! Our family of 6 will be travelling by car from Paris to Geneva and back next month and would love some recommendations. We will be staying in Paris for 4 nights (sans car) and then would like to take a couple of days driving east through Metz and into Germany and then to Geneva. We%26#39;ll stay 3 nights in Geneva then have 2 days to return to Paris. We%26#39;ll stay the last night near the CDG airport. Three of my sons are in college, so they are going to want some autonomy. I think they%26#39;d enjoy seeing a real German town as well as a French town besides Paris.m They%26#39;d love seeing Italy, too, but I%26#39;m thinking that might be too ambitious. If you have other suggestions that would be great.





I look forward to hearing from you.




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From what you%26#39;ve said, Heidelberg would probably be quite a good option for you. We visited for 2 nights during our trip this summer while en route to Austria. Although the 3 boys in our group aged 15/16 weren%26#39;t overly impressed they%26#39;re used to travelling in Europe so it probably wasn%26#39;t different enough from what they%26#39;ve seen before and we all know how hard it is to please that age group! Heidelberg is a university town though so seems to cater well for that age group. I think our boys were just a bit too young to explore the bars/student haunts. It also has enough for the adults to explore for a couple of days.





We ate at %26#39;Vetter%26#39; which had been recommended to us by a local. Traditional German pub food - excellent.





It%26#39;s about a 2-3 hour drive from Metz and about a 4-5 hour drive from Geneva.




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You might be interested in visiting the Maginot Line just to the south of Wissembourg, France. Heidelberg is slightly out of your way. Another nice German town on your way is Freiburg, another old college town, which sits on the edge of the Black Forest. If you don%26#39;t mind driving a little out of your way, another great old college town is Tuebingen ( www.tuebingen.de ) with its hilly cobblestone streets, half-timbered houses, castle, interesting nontourist shops, and one of Europe%26#39;s oldest universities, our favorite place in Germany to repeatedly visit. Just to its north is the lovely well-preserved medieval Bebenhausen Monastery (in www.schloesser-und-gaerten.de ). You can then drive across the Black Forest to return to the Rhine.





As the area of germany bordering both Switzerland and France is Baden-Wuerttemberg, a few useful websites:



www.baden-wuerttemberg.de



www.tourismus-bw.de



www.schloesser-und-gaerten.de for the excellent castles, palaces, monateries and gardens operated by this German state.




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Much as I love Heidelberg, it is a Baroque town, not a medieval %26quot;half-timbered%26quot; place, like other towns in Germany. Freiburg is a better choice here, and closer to your route.





MP: Why do you suggest Wissembourg? I love the place,but it is a bit obscure. And the Maginot line?



Why doyou suggest that? If one is in the area,I much prefer Strasbourg, a wonderful French/German/Alsatain town with some medieval, some Barouque,somem odern and great food: )




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%26quot;MP: Why do you suggest Wissembourg? I love the place,but it is a bit obscure. And the Maginot line?%26quot;





I didn%26#39;t suggest Wissembourg, we%26#39;ve only driven through it, although I%26#39;m sure it%26#39;s a fine place to visit but not one of the best. I%26#39;m also not recommending everyone visiting the Maginot Line, but for some people it would be very interesting. I%26#39;m just saying it%26#39;s there and can be visited. We went last summer because it was one of the few places that my visiting American son wanted to see. I also enjoyed it, it%26#39;s interesting and different. I just mentioned it because it is close to a possible driving route.




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Thanks. I was in Wissembourg last year and enjoyed it. Pretty little place,nice restaurants, and the closest bit of France to southwestern Germany. (other than tiny Lauterbourg, for an upcoming trip someday).





What do you see with the Maginot Line? We once took a detour from Black Forest across Rhine thru the Voges to Gerardmer (great town on the lake in Lorraine)and I understand the forests in the Voges have a lot to do with German/French combat.Is that related to Maginot?





For OP, this is all some background, no?




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%26quot;What do you see with the Maginot Line? We once took a detour from Black Forest across Rhine thru the Voges to Gerardmer (great town on the lake in Lorraine)and I understand the forests in the Voges have a lot to do with German/French combat.Is that related to Maginot?%26quot;





We visited the extensive underground tunnels and living areas somewhere not too far south of Wissenbourg, I think we kind of went off to the SW there as we had to look for another road there. I can%26#39;t find our detailed map of Alsace showing the Maginot Line fortifications, but there are several that are visitable and can be easily found on the internet with a search. When we arrived, there was a bus load of students and some of their families from Purdue University (my alma mater) who were just leaving on a tour so we joined them. Miles of tunnels, living areas, hospitals, storage areas, etc. and the guns are like battleship turrets that can be raised from below ground for firing, and can pivot like them.





Of course in WW II, the Germans just bypassed the Maginot Line attacking through neutral Belgium, Luxembourg and Holland. So although quite a few shells were fired from the guns, there were no real major attacks along this front and all the fortifications were surrendered intact by France. However, the late 1800%26#39;s Franco-Prussian War was fought in Alsace, and certainly in the Vosges. I%26#39;ve seen memorials to fallen German soldiers in places throughout Germany, but in Stuttgart is the only memorial I have personally seen in Germany celebrating victories in a war, this war, on Karlsplatz.

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Anyone traveling Europe between Sept. 1 - Oct. 21, and need intra-Europe travel check out this airfare sale.





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Munich & Bavaria Trip for the first time

My wife %26amp; I are planning on visiting Munich %26amp; some of the other sites in Bavaria including Garmisch-Partenkirchen and Neuschwanstein Castle during the first week of August.





We were thinking keeping Munich as the base, and using public transport to venture to the above areas and returning by the evening to the hotel.





We would greatly appreciate advice on the following:





1. What Hotel 4* category one would recommend, we would like to stay close to the main station, as it%26#39;ll help with our trips to Bavaria (we think ) although my wife is concerned that with the red light district being close, how safe is it ?





2. Alternatively any recommendations of hotels a couple of stops from the main station would also suffice.





3. With reference to making Munich our base is that the best thing to do ?





4. Would one recommend we take a coach tour to Salzberg, or alternatively catch a train to Salzberg and explore individually ?





5. What does one recommend for the evenings and nights in munich, my wife and I are found of Chinese, Indian and Italian cuisine, hence some recommendations would be appreciated.





Look forward to your advice.





With regards




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1. I recommend the Hotel Excelsior. Very nice, 4-star, with a wonderful breakfast, wine cellar %26amp; restaurant...





3. I personally love using Munchen as a %26quot;home base%26quot; - especially when hitting Switzerland %26amp; Austria, etc.





4. The bus day trips to Salzburg are affordable, comfortable, and easy from the city center. Please see this web site: Autobus-Oberbayern.de





5. There is a great little italian cafe - just across fro the main train station, on Bayer strasse. Look for the Hacker-Pschorr canopies.





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To be honest I dont suggest people use Munich as a %26#39;base%26#39; and then do long day trips... Why not spend 2 or 3 days in Munich then rent a car and enjoy the alpine regions. Support the local areas by actually staying in them, experiencing them,,, rather than the splash and dash,,, its such a waste of your time... relax... enjoy Munich, then leisurely take the drive past the lakes towards the mountains.... and stay in a local %26#39;pension%26#39; (bed n breakfast) away from Rick Steve diciples... you will enjoy it so much more than getting up early every day to rush off to %26#39;the castles%26#39;, %26#39;the salt mines%26#39;, %26#39;the authentic wood carvers in oberammergau%26#39; etc etc... as for the food... munich isnt exactly known as a mecca for chinese or indian... why not try the local specialties while youre in town? you can get bad chinese and average indian food anywhere in the world... if you speak german i can send you a link for restauarant guides... munich has many strengths... hospitality, liveability, food, beer etc etc... but ethnic foods dont make this a great city...




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I second Kepinitreals advice, don%26#39;t try to stick with the ready-made tours but use your time in Munich to see and enjoy the city and then head out to discover the region. You will see more and have a much better time than when having to take a bus or train early in the morning of every other day and getting back late and tired.



As for the %26quot;red-light%26quot; district near the main station, don%26#39;t be afraid you%26#39;ll probably barely notice it...




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Thank you all for your advice. We will update once we have visited.




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1. I don%26#39;t think that you necessarily need to stay right by the train station (Haputbahnhof) if you are doing many day trips. The S-Bahn and U-Bahn make access to the train station easy from all parts of the city. **Though there might be some issues with service disruptions that I think I saw mentioned on another post.** I stayed in the Marienplatz area and found it easy to get from there to the main train station for various day trips.





3. I just got back from a trip using Munich as the base for multiple day trips and enjoyed it. I went to Neuschwanstein and Hohenschwangau, Mittenwald, Oberammergau and Salzburg using Munich as my %26quot;home base.%26quot;





4. Take the Bahn from Munich to Salzburg and explore on your own. You can get the Bayern Ticket and get to Salzburg in 2 hours for 29 EUR. When you%26#39;re in Salzburg consider buying the Salzburg card, the cost of the card includes admission to all of the attractions in Salzburg.




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It worth buying Bayern ticket? Which are the advantages?




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I%26#39;m coming to this a bit late but will throw in my 2 cents:





1. Re: hotels, I echo suggestion you stay in city center rather than by the train station. Being just off Marienplatz is much more interesting and it will only take you about 10 minutes (including the inevitable standing around - the train ride is 2 mins) to get there from the train station. I recommend either the Bayerischerhof or the Torbrau.





2. A couple of really good Italian restaurants:





- Buon Gusto (Talamonti) - fantastic grilled seafoods and pastas



Hochbrückenstrasse 3 (just off Marienplatz)



- Lago di Garda: small family run place with outstanding pizza and other classic Italian dishes



Baaderstrasse 2, (near Deutsches Museum - take a taxi if you don%26#39;t want to walk)





3. KepinItReal%26#39;s comment about doing German food when in town is spot on. IMO, the best German restaurant that has fare much lighter than traditional Bavarian is Zum Alten Markt, which is right on the Viktuelien market. Most everything comes fresh from the market. The interior decor, with its intricately coffered wooden ceiling, came from a 400-year-old Tyrolean castle. It%26#39;s a small and very popular restaurant so I strongly recommend reservations: 089/29-99-95





4. The Bavaria ticket costs 28 Euros and gets you free travel throughout Bavaria for an entire day (beginning at 9:00 am) for up to 5 people. See more at bahn.de/international/…laender_tickets.shtml




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I third the recommendation of visiting Munich for a short time, see what interests you there, and then rent a car and visit the German and/or Austrian Alps or the Franken part of Bavaria to the NW. Then there is no need to constantly backtrack to Munich wasting your valuable vacation time, and if driving, you can just throw your luggage in the trunk and forget it. To me, the best parts of Germany are the smaller towns, rural sights, and countryside. All major cities were heavily destroyed in WW II, and what you are seeing there for the most part are restored buildings from the 1950s, not the originals.





And being from Dubai, for a pleasant change of temperature and scenery, I would visit the Alps. That%26#39;s the time for Neuschwanstein and Garmisch-Partenkirchen and other Alpine places, not from Munich.




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Hi Rajnimisha,





I agree with the posters above that staying in a smaller town or village in Bavaria is a wonderful experience and will bring you closer to the mountains and the gorgeous landscapes.





However, you really don%26#39;t have to rent a car to enjoy the area! There is a dense network of trains and busses that will take you from towns to villages to castles, all without hassle and without care. It%26#39;s a slow but wonderful way to travel, to enjoy the journey, and to maybe interact with the local residents.





You can get all the schedules for your possible trips at the German rail site,





www.bahn.de





Have fun!





s




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Just got back from that area yesterday.



As for going to Salzburg, take the train on your own.



I got the 24 hour Salzburg card at the train station for EUR 24 and feel that I really got my money%26#39;s worth. I%26#39;ll be posting a report over on the Salzburg forum in a few days.



The Bayern ticket is a real bargain. Not only does it include your 2nd class train travel, it also includes your local Munich subway, train and tram travel.

Train Munich to Rothenburg?

When buying advance tickets, is it Munchen Hbf for the outgoing? Is this the main train station in the city center?




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yes




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Yes. But you can choose any S-Bahn station in Munich as start point. Just choose the one closest to your hotel. If this is not München Hbf anyway.





Or use the Bavaria Ticket to travel to Rothenburg ob der Tauber. A day ticket covering all regional trains in Bavaria. It covers furthermore also the S-Bahn, U-Bahn (metro) trams and buses in Munich. The ticket is valid



Mo-Fr: from 9am till 3am next day



Sa,Su: from midnight till 3am next day



Bavaria Ticket Single (1 person) EUR 20,00



Bavaria Ticket (2-5 persons) EUR 28,00





You can buy this ticket on spot from ticket machines or at the counters (EUR 2,00 more there).





DB timetable



http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/en



From: Munich



To: Rothenburg ob der Tauber



and select as means of transport %26quot;only local transport%26quot; if you like to use the Bavaria Ticket.




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Thank you.




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Just did the route from Rothenburg to Munich. We did not buy tickets in advance and had no problems with using the Bayern ticket.

Backpacking Germany: Pack travel question

Hello, I am looking for some advice on my upcoming backpacking trip. 5 days in Sweden and 16 days to several cities througout Germany.





I just bought this 70-liter pack; http://tinyurl.com/nxgddk This will be my only luggage. What do you think of the size for this trip, too big/small?





Dimensions



27%26quot;



x 13 1/2%26quot;



x 10 1/4%26quot;



(69 cm x 34 cm x 25 cm)





Should I be checking the pack or should I try to get permission to carry it on? I believe it is just over the carry-on size limitations...





If I will be checking it on the plane, what is the best way to protect the pack? Is there some sort of cover that backpackers use to wrap the pack in so the straps do not get damaged?





Any other suggestions/tips regarding backpacking Europe, please comment. Thanks!






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How airlines treat carry-on luggage is highly variable. Some simply don%26#39;t care, I%26#39;ve seen a lot of things that never should be allowed being mostly way too big or too many items. On the other hand, others strictly enforce their number of carry-on items, and size and weight limits with no exceptions, forcing you to check anything that is even slightly over their official limit.





As to protecting the pack if it is checked luggage, I don%26#39;t think it is necessary, the only real problem is if the luggage handlers go on a luggage destroying spree (which I%26#39;ve seen the results of once), then nothing you can reasonably do will protect it.

Week in Frankfurt

Hello everyone...I have a vacation to Frankfurt for a week...have done some research on Frankfurt and everyone says that there is not much to do???? I was thinking about day trips...renting a car..maybe going to Rotheburgh, Heidelburgh Wursburg etc...any thoughts...and where I should go in these towns...I like exploring little shops, maybe if anything some %26#39;touristy%26#39; things..any thoughts or ideas for planning out the week...I am not going until September 28 so I have some time...just wanted to start thinking...thank you all so much...




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Frankfurt is a huge modern city for the most part. The towns you mention are more manageable and may have more of what you%26#39;re looking for. Rothenburg is especially worthwhile, though very touristy. I%26#39;m less enthusiastic about Heidelberg and Würzburg, though each is nice enough.





What about a wine festival? You might also enjoy an outing to Boppard on the Rhine River, where there%26#39;s a wine fest that runs from 9/26-29 and 10/3-5. Boppard%26#39;s a very nice village to visit even without the festival, and the neigboring villages of Bacharach, Oberwesel, and St. Goar are great too.





I%26#39;d suggest daytrips by train - very easy from Frankfurt. But F%26#39;furt is a metropolis. A somewhat quainter choice would be Mainz, a good alternative base town; it%26#39;s almost as close to FRA as Frankfurt is and is much smaller, with a nice pedestrian zone in the old town area. Daytrips to Heidelberg and the Rhine towns are easy from there.












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Thank you Russ, I was going to contact you since youare the expert!...I have a great rate at the Meridan of $69 per night, so that is why I was going to stay in Frankfurt...do you think it would be worthwhile to rent a car??? I would get a gps to navigate...the wine festival does sound like fun...I will be in touch prior to my trip to ask your help again...and thank you so much...




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%26gt; do you think it would be worthwhile to rent a car?



No.





%26gt; ..the wine festival does sound like fun..





There are a few things which will not work out well with a car at all:



- Frankfurt city centre



- wine festivals (as you cannot have wine and drive)



- boat trips on the Rhine (as you have to travel back to your car anyway by train)



- Heidelberg old city





Frankfurt is as a base a good choice. While it%26#39;s not exactly the tourist highlight of Germany it%26#39;s a nice place to live and has of course some nice spots. E.g. Old Sachsenhausen, Berger Strasse ...





Middle Rhine Valley



http://www.welterbe-mittelrheintal.de/



http://www.k-d.com





A car is an option if you want to explore e.g. the Odenwald or Taunus uplands. Albeit also there you can get to the most places of interest also by train.




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Great price on your hotel! I would stay there too.





Do not believe the naysayers about Frankfurt. This comes from people who have spent little time here and know little about the city and its rich history. There is so much stuff to see and do here that you could easily keep busy for a week. Heck, there are 46 museums to pick from for just a start! Many people are also under the impression that the city was completely destroyed in the war and that too is untrue. This mainly affected the city center and in a city of 600,000 there are plenty of original buildings left. We have very beautiful, old neighborhoods with open produce markets, street festivals, and lovely old churches.





Würzburg, Heidelburg, Bad Homburg, Mainz, Wiesbaden, Königstein, and all the little towns along the Rhein, the Neckar, or the Main are easy to reach too and have wonderful sites to visit.





Here is a small list of events going on in Frankfurt and the surrounding towns. All easily accessed with the train.





* 25 Sept.- 5 Oct. Darmstadt, Messeplatz Autumn Fair





* 26-27 Sept. Castle Ronneburg Medieval Castle Festival





* 27 Sept. Frankfurt, Alte Oper Orchestra Concert





* 27 Sept. Dreieich-Dreieichenhain, Hayn Castle Hain Pottery Market





* 28 Sept. Frankfurt, Heilig Geist Church Choir %26amp; Orchestra Concert - Bruckner





* 30 Sept.- 4 Oct. Kronberg Cello Festival





* 2-6 Oct. Bad Nauheim Village Festival %26amp; Sunday Shopping





* 3 Oct. Frankfurt, Roemerburg Jazz Festival to Celebrate German Reunification Day





* 3-4 Oct. Neu Ansbach, Hessen Park Apple and Harvest Festival





* 3-4 Oct. Ronneburg Medieval Castle Festival





* 8 Oct.- 1 Nov. Frankfurt Chrysanthemums Show at the Palmengarten





P.S. I loved Würzburg, and think the Residenz there is absolutely gorgeous.




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Thank you so muchI have read your posts and realize that you are one of the Frankfurt experts...I thought the same thing, that many people sell Frankfurt short..I will be in touch as I get closer but thank you so much...




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Frankfurt is a big cultural town, there are enough actual fun museums to visit that would last you easy a week





Of course the people of frankfurt like to go out aswell, plenty of bars, clubs and restaurants to choose from. Sachsenhausen is old school german(in a hesse way/not bavarian) Schweizer Street there has some cool bars aswell as the typical applewein places you can find in the area (In addition to old sachsenhausen and some taverns along textorstreet)





Downtown Frankfurt along Fressgass has some great bars and restaurants aswell





A week out here, you sure wont get bored!

Just moved here in Frankfurt.. interested in Rhein in Flamen

Hallo,





We just moved here in Frankfurt from the US, and we%26#39;re still finding our way around. We are interested to see the famous Rhein in Flamen festival. Do they still have this festival? Where is the best spot/town to see this?





How do we get there from Frankfurt? I%26#39;m aware that we have to stay overnight, what suggestions do you have on which town to stay at?





I know we have to start from Mainz, how do we get there from Frankfurt?





From Mainz, do we take the train or river cruise so we could also enjoy the Rhine%26#39;s many fascinating sights along the river.





Thank you so much for all your help. Vielen Dank!!




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Don%26#39;t miss the upcoming fests in Frankfurt itself.



Mainfest



frankfurt-tourismus.de/cms/tourismussuite/en…



Museum Embankment Festival



frankfurt-tourismus.de/cms/tourismussuite/en…





Rhein in Flammen is not a single date event. This happens at various dates at various places along the Rhine.



http://www.rhein-in-flammen.com/



The ones left for this year:



Koblenz 08.08.2009



Oberwesel 12.09.2009



St. Goar 19.09.2009




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Abalada,





Vielen Dank, for the prompt answers. Thanks for the info on the dates/towns to see the famous Rhein in Flamen, we%26#39;ll make sure we catch the schedule in those towns you mentioned.





Yes, we%26#39;re also aware of the Mainfest, we%26#39;re actually thinking if we should take the Frankfurt in fireworks offered by Primus Linie.





Have you tried this tour before? Is it worth to just watch the fireworks by the river or worth while to take the river tour.





Incidentally, we have already taken the river cruise along the Main River last Sunday, it was wonderful to see Frankfurt%26#39;s skyline mixed with the old and impressive newer buildings.





We are still looking at other things to do here around Frankfurt.





Thanks once again...




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%26quot;We are still looking at other things to do here around Frankfurt.%26quot;





The first thing to do is go to the tourist office and get their free information, and perhaps others you may have to pay for if you%26#39;re interested in the topic.





Also get the free information from the tourist offices of the German states, Hessen and Rheinland-Pfalz would be good ones to begin with, and also Baden-Wuerttemberg and Bavaria for slightly further away. You can probably access them from the internet as well as other places in Germany by going to www.PLACENAME.de, then tourismus, unless there is an early English option.





Bookstores will have books about Frankfurt and the region around it. Personally, I like the trilingual (German, English, French) picture books of cities and regions in Germany. If you like the pictures you will probably like the place, and it%26#39;s a good way to prioritize where you visit. Also look for these books at flea markets if you want to save some money.





Also, at either a Shell gas station or at a bookstore, get Map #23 in Die Shell Regional Karte, Großraum Frankfurt. After looking at all the alternatives, I found them to be the best for planning day trips. 18 maps in this series cover all of Germany, but there is a special map centered on Frankfurt. 1cm = 1.5km (1 inch approximates 2.5 miles) so they are quite detailed for nonurban areas.





Besides the roads, they also show the railroads and their stations, so they are also excellent for planning train trips.





Each map will show hundreds or thousands of places to visit such as: interesting towns; castles, palaces and monasteries and whether they are intact or ruins; amusement and wildlife parks; churches; visitable mines; caves; waterfalls; vista points; scenic drives, valleys or rivers; etc.





The sights are also accurately rated. The better sights are highlighted in yellow if man-made and in green if natural features, and the best also have a box around them. Even non-highlighted places can be excellent to visit. There%26#39;s also other excellent information on them such as the highways subject to traffic jams. Each map is all you really need to plan a very enjoyable day trip, stopping at places of interest to you along the way. Perhaps choose your primary destinations from those picture books.




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Hallo Marcopolko,





Many thanks for that informative suggestions. Yes, we%26#39;ll surely look for that interesting Map #23, I know it will help a lot in planning our trip outside of Frankfurt. It%26#39;s nice to know helpful things from people that already live here in Germany.





Is that Map #23 in German? My husbands speaks and reads German fairly, but it will be nice if there%26#39;s also an English version so I can read it as well. As you know, the husband will be driving and the wife will be the one holding the map ;-)





We%26#39;re still waiting for our car to arrive here from the US, so for now, we%26#39;re just taking the trains and bus to get around.





Yes, we also like looking at pictures, and that%26#39;s what we base our decision on what places to see and visit.





You%26#39;ve made a good suggestion to look for travel books in flea markets. That%26#39;s a good tip, thanks for that.





We%26#39;ll also check those places that you%26#39;ve mentioned, Hesse, Rheinland-Pflaz, Baden Wuerttenberg and Bavaria.





Of course, we%26#39;ll definitely visit Bavaria, there%26#39;s so many things to see there. I%26#39;m also interested to see Stuttgart in the days or months to come.





Thanks for the very informative ideas and suggestions.




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%26quot;You can probably access them from the internet as well as other places in Germany by going to www.PLACENAME.de, then tourismus, unless there is an early English option.%26quot;





I should have added substitute the actual place name.





I%26#39;ll also mention two very large special events coming up:



the world%26#39;s largest wine festival- Wurstmarkt (Sausage Market) in Bad Dürkheim ( www.duerkheimer-wurstmarkt.de ) 11-21Sept



the world%26#39;s second largest beer festival- Cannstatter Volksfest ( www.cannstatter-volksfest.de ) in Stuttgart ( www.stuttgart-tourist.de ) 25Sept to 11Oct




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Thanks again for those suggestions, my husband loves the beer and I love wines, so we%26#39;ll surely research on those two great festivals.





Germany has so many festivals and it%26#39;s such great way to explore other areas and to know more about the culture.





See, now we really need to plan to see Sttutgart, thanks again for all the info.





More power..




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%26quot;Is that Map #23 in German? My husbands speaks and reads German fairly, but it will be nice if there%26#39;s also an English version so I can read it as well. As you know, the husband will be driving and the wife will be the one holding the map ;-)%26quot;





The map itself will use the actual names of places which are of course in German, which will agree with the road signs. There%26#39;s really no trouble using the maps because the legend is multilingual, so you%26#39;ll know what each symbol stands for. The accompanying booklet will have more detailed city maps, and the description of the sights on them will be in German, but then you really shouldn%26#39;t be driving around a large city when you can use the excellent public transportation. Driving and parking can be a nightmare.





There%26#39;s only one problem with using these maps, the scale is so large that at first you will have driven a long ways past the place before you start looking for it, but after a few times you%26#39;ll become used to them. These maps are nice because they are so detailed showing every curve of the highway that you can tell exactly where you are on them.





Another thing, there%26#39;s a lot of churches shown on the maps, but if they are Protestant almost all will be kept locked except when in use. After attempting to visit a few of them when they%26#39;re locked, if they%26#39;re not Catholic which are usually more ornate anyways, just skip them except for the major ones and hope that they are open.





I also recommend becoming familiar with the area around where you live, there are many excellent things that many life-long residents may not know about. There is really no need to do a distant trip to see someplace (unless you really want to see it) when there are so many excellent things right by home and most won%26#39;t probably have the foreign tourist masses that ruin the experience in many otherwise lovely places.





Enjoy your stay in Frankfurt, I%26#39;ve lived in Stuttgart now for five years (loving it) and there are countless nearby things I haven%26#39;t gotten to yet, there is just too much to see and do in Germany!!!!!!




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My favorite suggestion for people who have moved to Germany, is to check out Toytown. This is a website made for English speakers who live in Germany. It is connected with The Local, which is the news in English for the different cities. There you can find the best Indian, Mexican, Steak, Asian, etc. restaurants, the best fitness center in your neighborhood, all kinds of fests and events for Frankfurt, and meet-ups with other expats.





http://www.toytowngermany.com/forum/index.php





http://www.thelocal.de/





Welcome to Frankfurt! I love it here. It is a lively, fascinating city with a very long, rich history.




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Hallo Marcopolko,





Thanks again for all those great infos, I think we really need to search for that Map #23, it will really be helpful, just to know all the spots that we need to check out. Yes, we love visiting churches as we are Catholics, it%26#39;s really a joy to see all those magnificent churches and learn their history.





You%26#39;re also right in saying that we have to discover things around us. That%26#39;s what we%26#39;ve been doing, walking around our area. We found a local German restaurant, not advertise but known by the locals. It was a real treat, and the food was superb.





As we walk around we find new things everyday, we%26#39;ve found parks close to us, we%26#39;re enjoying our stay here in Frankfurt and I know that we will be discovering more things.





Vielen Dank!




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Hallo Bornheimgirl,





Thanks for your great suggestion on that Toytown website. I have actually checked on that website before we moved here. So, I got a clear idea of how things are going to be once we get here. I found lots of great info there from hospitals, to shops, restaurants and just learning about how people live here.





I will try the other website www.thelocal.de, we%26#39;ve been enjoying our stay here in Frankfurt, there are so many festivals.





We also love the efficient means of transportation. Last Sunday, we took the Main River cruise with Primus Linie, we just enjoyed the magnificent views of the old and modern skyline along the river.





We%26#39;re learning new things everyday. We%26#39;ve just been here for 12 days and we%26#39;re looking forward to more enjoyable travels around Germany and beyond.





Vielen Dank!!

Weekend in Frankfurt

I will be in Frankfurt for a few days, towards the weekend. I will be in town on August 28-31...i will want to know what there is to do i town...where can i go and have a good time during the day. I plan on staying somewhere downtown but what is there to do? At night i would like to go to a club or bar..i really like techno, hardcore type music. Hope you guys can give me so good information. Thanks




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That weekend, the party is along the river. It is the Museum Riverbank Festival, and they are expecting well over 3 million people to show up as has happened the last 2 years. A huge variety of music will be available on over 20 stages stretched out along both sides of the river and also back in the garden areas behind the museum. Great food from around the world will be there too. This will be the best time to be had and you will probably be able to meet lots of other people here.




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I was just going to post a thread asking the same thing, so thought I%26#39;d post in here instead since its relevant. I will also be in Frankfurt from Aug 31 - Sept 2





I love museums, art and music, but since I will just have 1 full day there, is it best just to walk around and play it by ear once we%26#39;re there? Or are there things that are a %26quot;must see%26quot; in Frankfurt?





I am also interested to hear more club or bar recommendations that cristian was asking about.




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The Museum River Festival is HUGE and sure something that this city can be very proud of. Well worth to check it out





If you are into museums, along the Sachsenhausen Side of the Main River you will find 13 world class museums side by side





Christian, Frankfurt is next to Detroit and Berlin the capitol of hard core house and trance music, so no worries there. After the festival you can hit up some clubs in downtown frankfurt





There are also some beachclubs on top of parkingstructures either along the Zeil or the Börse(stock exchange)





Here is a list of nightclubs, i would recomend Cocoon or King Kamehameha



10best.com/Frankfurt,Germany/…





List of beachclubs(unfortunatly it is in german, maybe use google to translate, but at least you have adresses to choose from) Best one is King Kamehameha beachclub in offenbach or closer to town Deck 8, which is right by the Zeil(shoppingstreet)





www.frankfurt.de/sixcms/detail.php…

SFX to Lindemanns Hotel on Potsdamer Strasse.

Am travelling to Berlin next week. We are arriving at Schoenfeld at 20:30 and we were wondering if it is best to travel on to Lindemanns on Potsdamer Strasse by public transport or to take a taxi




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Depends on what you mean by %26quot;best%26quot;. A taxi will in all likelihood be faster, but will cost you the thick end of €40. Public transport will take you maybe an hour but will cost only €2,80.




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Thanks for the advice. Will probably take public transport to city centre and taxi the rest of the way. Shouldn%26#39;t work out too expensive that way.




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lindemanns-hotel.de/…





Taxi from Alexanderplatz station is of course an option. Buy you can decide on spot if you want to take the Metrobus (covered by the EUR 2,80 ticket) or hop into one of the waiting taxis there.

visiting on 9/22 & 9/23

My wife and i are visiting this area (rhineland/rothenburg ) on the above dates this year.



we have been to germany before, and love it. i thought the hi-light of our trip would be to visit Munich during Oktoberfest.



I%26#39;ve since heard that there%26#39;s some kind of wine festival that is older than Oktoberfest.



Can anyone be so kind as to explain or elaborate on this event.



THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND HELP. john




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You will have just missed the world%26#39;s largest wine festival, Wurstmarkt (Sausage Market- www.duerkheimer-wurstmarkt.de ) in Bad Düerkheim, it runs from the 11-21Sept. It%26#39;s similar to a large beer festival except with wine, having large tents, rides and entertainment.




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are we going to be close to where it is held?




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Bad Dürkheim is in the Palatinate part of Rhineland-Palatinate. Close to Mannheim and Heidelberg.



en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_D%C3%BCrkheim





A classical route at least by car is the Castle Road from Rothenburg to Heidelberg/Mannheim.



www.burgenstrasse.de/showpage.php…





By train the route would be rather Rothenburg - Würzburg - Heidelberg - Mannheim - Bad Dürkheim





Mannheim to Bad Dürkheim is 50 minutes by %26quot;train%26quot;. The Rhein-Haardtbahn is more of a countryside tram. Thus rather slow.



http://www.rhein-haardtbahn.de/Netzplan.html

P+R parking on Saturday

Hi we are driving from Luxembourg to Cologne on Saturday (day trip), and based on reading the forums, our best bet for parking are the P+R. Can anyone please advise which P+R is the most convenient?





As we will be there on a Saturday, is the P+R likely to be full? If so, what are our alternatives?






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Use the one at Koeln-Frechen it%26#39;s right by the -S- bahn tracks and a 15 minutes ride to the city or so.




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Awesome, thanks for the tip!




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I take it your car has a Nav Unit. There are actually 2 lots, enter Frechen Benzelrath or Frechen Koenigsdorf. Have coins ready to buy your ticket from the automat. If there is a least 2 of you then get a mini-group Day Ticket for € 10,10



kvb-koeln.de/german/…minigruppe.html

Driving Meersburg to Ludwigsburg

We plan to drive from Meersburg to Ludwigsburg, stopping at Sigmaringen. What roadways should we take, and what scenic towns should we stop to visit? We have 2 days for this segment of our trip, and like palaces, castles, non-touristy small towns.




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From Meersburg to Sigmaringen first go to Mühlhofen/Uhldingen and then inland to Salem (palace there), and then on to Heiligenberg (another palace), then Pfullendorf, then to Sigmaringen (another very large palace- www.hohenzollern.com ).





From Sigmaringen ( www.sigmaringen.de probably only in German), I have two suggestions. One is to head west along the Danube River with its idyllic gorge through the Swabian Alb ( www.schwaebischealb.de ) with lots of castles and palaces perched atop the cliffs to Tuttlingen. There is a nice monastery at Beuren along the way. Then to Rottweil which is a pleasant town. Then take Hwy 27 to Balingen (water palace) and on to Hechingen for Hohenzollern Castle ( www.burg-hohenzollern.com ), fairytale like, perched atop a hill outlier of the Alb, and one of Germany%26#39;s most significant castles being the family seat of the hohenzollerns of Prussian kings and German emperors. Then on to Tuebingen ( www.tuebingen.de ), just a wonderful town with hilly cobblestone streets, half-timbered houses, castle, interesting nontourist shops, and one of Europe%26#39;s oldest universities. Visit the charming well-preserved medieval monastey Bebenhausen (in www.schloesser-und-gaerten.de ) just north of it, and most importantly at this time (because of the traffic jams caused by road works on the B27 heading toward Stuttgart) continue to Waldenbuch. There are museums for the manufacture of chocolate and art in the form of squares (their candy bar shape), at the Ritter SPORT factory there, and a large sales area for their discounted chocolate products.





Continue through Stuttgart ( www.stuttgart-tourist.de ) on Hwy 27. Particularly the Mercedes Benz but also the Porsche Museums are excellent to visit, Stuttgart is after all where the automobile was invented. There%26#39;s a lot of other things to see and do, but not in your time frame. Ludwigsburg ( www.ludwigsburg.de ) with its excellent palace (in www.schloesser-und-gaerten.de ) is a short distance past Stuttgart.





Another option from Sigmaringen would be to head NE to Riedlingen (a pleasant town) along the Danube, and then take Hwy 312 to Zwiefalten (again re-entering the Alb) with its magnificent monastery church. Turn off for Hayingen and follow the signs for the Grosse Lauter River at Hayingen. Before Hayingen you will pass a cave that can be only entered by boat, the Friedrichshöhle and also Wimsenhöhle. After Hayingen you will be driving along the idyllic Grosse Lauter River valley with one of the highest concentrations of castle ruins in Germany (almost all are visitable). Along this stretch you can also rent a canoe ( www.kanutouren.com only in German) for a trip on the river%26#39;s placid waters.





Then you will come to Germany%26#39;s oldest state stables, the world-famous Marbach ( www.gestuet-marbach.de ), where you can visit the magnificent stallions close-up in their stalls, and the mares and colts will be out in the fields. A little while later at Gomadingen you will run into a highway that will take you toward Reutlingen. At Offenhausen, in front of the horse museum, there is an inn that has excellent food, and nextdoor in a quiet pool in the former monastery garden is a pool that is the source of the Grosse Lauter River. That might be a nice place to stay if you don%26#39;t mind being out in the middle of nowhere.





Then continue on, and there are two caves nearby which will be signposted, the Bärenhöhle (with its prehistoric cave bear skeleton), and then the Nebelhöhle which is close to another fairytale-like castle, Schloss Lichtenstein ( www.schloss-lichtenstein.de only in German), where they recently just finished filming Sleeping Beauty. Then continue on through Reutlingen to Tuebingen where you rejoin the other proposed route.





At Gomadingen, it%26#39;s possible also to head for the lovely mountain valley spa town of Bad Urach ( www.badurach.de ), and then visit the largest castle (fortress) ruin of the Alb, Hohenneuffen (in www.schloesser-und-gaerten.de ), quite impressive. Then head to Nürtingen and the A8 toward Stuttgart. On this route you can also turn off to visit the well preserved medieval old town center of Esslingen ( www.esslingen.de ). Then to Stuttgart and then the B27 to Ludwigsburg.





Personally, I prefer the second option leaving out Bad Urach and on. But whatever way you choose to go, all these are excellent routes with more than enough to see and do in your short time and all pleasant drives. Do the other things some other time. Just select the one that you think would be the most interesting, and see things along it that interest you. The problem is that if you stop everwhere, you%26#39;ll have a hard time getting to where you are going.




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Excellent recommendations - thanks so much for all of your replies to my many questions.

one night in Lindau

hi,





am 1. august abends bin ich unterwegs in Lindau und muss mich dort fuer eine nacht aufhalten; brauche einen hinweis, wo ich trotz der spaeten zeit, eine (am besten billige) unterkunft finden koennte.. campingplatz/hostel oder so.. oder einfach 2 quadratmeter im privaten garten?? (habe ein zelt mit...)



wuerde mich freuen ueber eine antwort :)



bis bald, Lindau!





marta




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Camping



web20.icserver3.de/index.php…





Youth Hostel



www.jugendherberge.de/jh/bayern/lindau/





None of the above is however directly on the island, where the train station and old town is.

Purchasing rail tickets / Bahn Questions

Hello,





I will be taking a number of trips by rail during a 17 day travel, Sept. 17 - Oct. 3. I am wondering if I should book all of these individually, or buy a bahn card or some other discounted pass through the rail system in Germany. The website will not allow advanced purchase yet. When is the best time to purchase these, in advance or at the station? Will buying in advance save some money?





For the Munich to Prague, will I buy two seperate tickets, or one for the full trip and just get off/on at Regensberg?





Munich --%26gt; Regensberg(daytrip) --%26gt; Prague





Prague --%26gt; Dresden





Dresden --%26gt; Berlin





Berlin --%26gt; Potsdam (and return,daytrip)





Berlin --%26gt; Bamberg





Bamberg --%26gt; Rothenburg ob der Tauber





Rothenburg ob der Tauber --%26gt; Munich






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1. Munich --%26gt; Regensberg(daytrip) --%26gt; Prague



1.1. Bavaria-Bohemia Ticket Single EUR 23,00



Covers the route as far as Plzen/Pilsen. Only regional trains - but this plays no role on this route. Valid



Mo-Fr: from 9am till 3am next day



Sa,Su: from midnight till 3am next day



This ticket covers furthermore all local public transport in Munich (U-Bahn, trams and buses) and Regensburg (buses)



Buy it on spot from ticket machines in Munich.



1.2. normal ticket for the part Plzen/Pilsen to Prague



CZK 147 (~ EUR 5,20).



Buy this ticket from the Czech conductor on the train (comes in Furth im Wald on board). Exchange some Czech Korunas in advance in Munich or Regensburg.



You don%26#39;t have to do anything in Plzen/Pilsen. Just stay seated.





2. Prague --%26gt; Dresden



Buy a normal ticket at the counter in Prague.





3. Dresden --%26gt; Berlin



You can buy a special in advance (earliest 89 days before departure) through the DB timetable.



http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/en



The specials are only valid for the connections bought for. No change, no refund. Normal price tickets on the opposite are flexible and can be also bought on spot for the same price.





4. Berlin --%26gt; Potsdam (and return,daytrip)



Local public transport day ticket for zones Berlin ABC. EUR 6,50. Ticket machines on spot.





5. Berlin --%26gt; Bamberg



DB timetable





6. Bamberg --%26gt; Rothenburg ob der Tauber



Bavaria Ticket Single EUR 20,00



Conditions are identical with the ones of the Bavaria-Bohemia Ticket. Ticket machines on spot.



Select at the DB timetable as means of transport %26quot;only local transport%26quot; if you like to use the Bavaria Ticket.





7. Rothenburg ob der Tauber --%26gt; Munich



Bavaria Ticket Single EUR 20,00



Ticket machines on spot.




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Thank you so much for the information. I will make good use of it!




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Hi, I was looking back over this itinerary and have a question.





The ticket qouted below...So you purchase the ticket for EUR 23,00 and you can ride the train during those times listed no restrictions (because I plan on getting off at Regensberg and then getting back on another train to finish my leg)?





When I look at Bahn.de they do not have this ticket online. They only have specific tickets per departure. Munich to Prague is quoted at EUR 29 on savings and regular price is EUR 60. Will the Bavaria-Bohemia Ticket go up in price if I purchase the same day? The savings structures are confusing...





And, for when I get there. Do I just refer to the ticket as %26quot;Bavaria-Bohemia%26quot; and I will know how to select this at the machine?







%26quot;1. Munich --%26gt; Regensberg(daytrip) --%26gt; Prague



1.1. Bavaria-Bohemia Ticket Single EUR 23,00





Covers the route as far as Plzen/Pilsen. Only regional trains - but this plays no role on this route. Valid





Mo-Fr: from 9am till 3am next day



Sa,Su: from midnight till 3am next day





This ticket covers furthermore all local public transport in Munich (U-Bahn, trams and buses) and Regensburg (buses)





Buy it on spot from ticket machines in Munich.%26quot;




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%26gt; So you purchase the ticket for EUR 23,00 and you can ride the train during those times listed no restrictions



Yes (apart from the restrictions I already listed). Stopover in Regensburg is no problem.





%26gt; When I look at Bahn.de they do not have this ticket online.



You can buy it online. But this shop is only in Germany and this will add a shipping fee of EUR 3,50.



https:/…





%26gt; Will the Bavaria-Bohemia Ticket go up in price if I purchase the same day?



No.





%26gt; And, for when I get there. Do I just refer to the ticket as %26quot;Bavaria-Bohemia%26quot; and I will know how to select this at the machine?



Should be under %26quot;Länder-Tickets%26quot;. Either as Bavaria-Bohemia Ticket or under its German name Bayern-Böhemn Ticket.



You can also buy it at the counter. Will cost than EUR 25,00 however.




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small typo:



... under its German name Bayern-Böhmen Ticket.




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abalada, Your awesome! Thank you again for the great info and fast response. I understand now. I appreciate it!

2 days in FRA due to PDX changes:Heidelberg?Ideas anyone?

Due to Lufthansa canceling PDX flights, we will be in Frankfurt for 2 days after our trip to Croatia and Turkey. I know nothing about Germany and want to experience what we can while there. I spoke with a German family yesterday visiting Portland and they said we should take the train to Heidelberg for the day. Does anybody have other ideas, or would that be a good thing to do with our limited time? Thanks for any input!!




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Heidelberg is for sure an option.



heidelberg-marketing.de/content/index_eng.ht…



schloss-heidelberg.de/en/…267923.html





Middle Rhine Valley another one



http://www.welterbe-mittelrheintal.de/



http://www.k-d.com



http://www.marksburg.de





You can stay either in Frankfurt or Mainz. The airport is between both cities.



frankfurt-tourismus.de/cms/…home.html



mainz.de/WGAPublisher/…hpkr-5nkgnz.en.html




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There are many possibilities,all within an hour or so of Frankfurt - Heidelberg, Rhine, Mainz, also Schwetzingen, Speyer, Weisbaden just a few.





They are all fine. I think you should be pleased with any of these, and I would suggest getting your mindset that all are %26quot;Germany%26quot;, and I think, representatively so, so it doesn%26#39;t matter to get too crazy on what specific place you choose.





Although Heidleberg is always my favorite, I think in your case, with only a short time, maybe a Rhine cruise or other place is better. I say this because to get to the %26quot;castle area%26quot; in Heidleberg isa bit of a trip, 20 min.or more from train station. In the other locations you will be in the center of things right away, and can %26quot;ramble%26quot; more easily.





Or throw a dart?




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What are your interests?





There are many good daytrips from Frankfurt, if we know what you like, we could better help with suggestions.





It is a shame about the direct flight from Portland being cancelled. It made the trip into Europe almost fun, instead of a chore.




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We like architecture, culture, museums and great local food. Thanks for your info.

Oktoberfest. some more questions

Hello everyone





Together with my friend we are going to Munich on 19thSept - just the opening of Oktoberfest, and as there only 2 of us it was not possible to do any reservation..So wonder if there is still any chance to go inside -think i would love hippodrome tent with horse design:) Shall we go into the que and try to wait for any seats left or there will be no chance at the opening? I mean we feel okay with waiting just need to know if it would work. And if we are that lucky and find a seat inside at midday lets say, is that possible to stay there untill evening? As someone told that in the evening hours even if the table is already occupied, tent staff could bring a %26#39;reserved%26#39; sign..





And one more issue - is there any veggie food served? Just thought that Oktoberfest is a place for chicken and roast..





Thanks very much in advance!:)




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Have a look at previous posts!!! - there are lots of discussions about opening day.



All the same - just come before 8 am, join queues and try to grab seats when tents are opened. If you get bored sitting in one tent chances exist to find some space at evening. Even better chances to seat outside. And you can occupy your seats as long as you want - till the end (if table is not reserved), but at midday you can only find seas outside, tents just close doors. Plenty of tables are reserved from 5 pm, but it should be the sign on it. Double check with the waiter.





Veggie options exist, but mostly in the shape of starters and snacks




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thank you very much for your answer!




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as the above. pls take the time to view some of the many OFest questions that answer your question. Ofest is for beer and meat (also fish). As for veggie options you could ask for a plate of sauerkraut without speck... not really the place for vegetarians i%26#39;m afraid... have fun




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Thanks, I thought so that it wasnt nice to ask the same question about getting inside tents as around hundred people has already asked about it before. I just get confused with this thing about how long we are allowed to keep seats! and of course the possibility of no veggie food that confused me a bit.





and thanks again for being nive to me, as what i expected that my question could get on nerves:)) Please forgive silly blonde)




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Sneggy, don%26#39;t worry, the oktoberfest questions like the Bayernticket questions just keep coming back no matter how often they have been answered before...



As you already found out, trying to get into the tents on opening day means getting there early, be at the right entrance at the right time and then try to find a place at a table. If you get there by midday you will find that most tents will have already closed their doors. But even if you get into the tent, most tables are either already full or the people will tell you that you cannot sit down because they wait for friends. So you got to keep asking and asking until you find someone who says %26quot;sure sit down%26quot;. By the way, it%26#39;s always easier if a girl ask with a smile :-)



Once you have found a place at a table that has no reservation for the afternoon or evening (Hippodrom now runs 3 shifts on the %26quot;reserved%26quot; tables, one from 12:00 to 15:00, the Happy-Hippo-Hour from 15:30 to 18:30 and from 19:00 to 23:00) you can usually keep it as long as you keep consuming.



As for vegetarian food the offer is rather limited but they should have one or two options on the menue.



Have fun!




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Thank you Joel, it was verry helpful!

Train travel 24 December 2009

We want to travel by train from Paris to Frankfurt on 24 December 2009 - will the trains be operational on this day?





Thanks



Michele




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Yes. But book/reserve in time. An absolute peak travel day (or better: morning).





You can normally book earliest 89 days in advance. However due the yearly timetable change in mid December the new timetable is normally only available end of October.





DB timetable



http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/en



From: Paris Est



To: Frankfurt




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Thanks for the info! Will check the timetable later in the year.



Michele

Better to fly into Nuremberg or Munich

We plan to travel to Nuremberg this December for the Christmas Markets and are unsure of whether it is more sensible/cost effective to fly into Munich and take the train to Nuremberg or to fly directly into Nuremberg. It seems that as Munich is a larger city might have more economical airfares, but I%26#39;m unsure. In our group, three of us are flying out of Phoenix, AZ and another three out of Charlotte, NC.





Also, has anyone heard any predictions on airfare to Europe this winter? I had heard a month or so to go to hold off on purchasing tickets for now as prices would likely go down, but since then I%26#39;ve seen them creep up a bit. Just curious on everyone%26#39;s thoughts on whether to buy now or risk it in the hopes of a price decrease.





Thanks in advance!



Leah




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Can%26#39;t help you on the airfare predictions, but I would definitely not fly into Nuernberg. This is a small airport and you would have to change planes to get there.





I would suggest that either you fly out of PHX to Frankfurt and have your Charlotte party meet you there. They can fly Delta to Frankfurt. Spending my winter in TUS we have taken the Lufthansa/United flight out of PHX.





Or, fly Delta/Northwest to Amsterdam, and meet there, and connect to Munich or Frankfurt. Nuernberg is about equidistant from Frankfurt or Munich by train (check www.bahn.de). The one advantage leaving from Munich would be that up to 5 of you can travel on one EUR28 ticket, called the Bayernkarte. You can%26#39;t use express trains, though. Again check the website for the time differences. The Bayernkarte permits Regio trains, not IC, ICE or EC trains. You can buy the ticket at the Munich airport, take the shuttle to the main station and change to the Nuernberg train.




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%26quot;Or, fly Delta/Northwest to Amsterdam, and meet there, and connect to Munich or Frankfurt.%26quot;





If you are going to be in Amsterdam, it%26#39;s silly then not to fly directly to where you want to be in Nuremberg. You can also make connections at airports in London and Paris. That gives you a lot of carriers, Air France, BA, KLM and their alliance partners, and for Germany Lufthansa and its partners.





It is also possible to have a rail trip within Germany inexpensively oncluded on your airline ticket. If you fly into any German city, inquire with the airlines about that. The rail journey will be included on your airline ticket and is treated as an actual flight, so just don%26#39;t invalidate the rest of your ticket by omitting a required train journey. These work in two ways, with Airail you have quiter a leeway with which trains that can be used and are not committed to a specific train. The other option will commit you to one particular train at one particular time.





Also, when it comes to buying tickets, check with all the airlines including their alliance partners. I know that many are happy to sell you the cheapest tickets because you are using them for a few short legs, and their partner airline provides the real travel, but they%26#39;re more than happy to split that profit with only providing minimal service. The last time I flew to the US it was on KLM through Amsterdam which had by far the best rates. However, I flew them only Stuttgart to Amsterdam and back. The four other flights were on Northwest, and the KLM ticket was much cheaper than a Northwest one.




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%26gt;The one advantage leaving from Munich would be that up to 5 of you can travel on one EUR28 ticket, called the Bayernkarte. You can%26#39;t use express trains, though.





This doesn´t make a lot of difference as the Munich-Nuremberg relation features the fastest regional trains in Germany (200 km/h)





%26gt; Again check the website for the time differences. The Bayernkarte permits Regio trains, not IC, ICE or EC trains. You can buy the ticket at the Munich airport, take the shuttle to the main station and change to the Nuernberg train.





What shuttle?



If you are in the airport, take the 10 min bus ride to Freising (which is on one of the Munich-Nuremberg routes) and save yourself 40 min train ride into Munich and 30 min train ride out to Freising




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No direct flights to Nuremberg. Of course if you%26#39;re there it%26#39;s fast to get into the city centre. 10-15 minutes by U-Bahn (metro). Single ticket to anywhere in Nuremberg is EUR 1,90.





Munich airport and Frankfurt airport are roughly in the same distance from Nuremberg. From Frankfurt Airport (FRA) you have direct trains to Nuremberg. From Munich Airport (MUC) you can use the cheap Bavaria Ticket to get to Nuremberg. Munich is also the nicer airport.





DB timetable



http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/en



From: MUC



To: Nuremberg



and select as means of transport %26quot;only local transport%26quot;. Bavaria ticket covers the bus to Freising, the regional trains to Nuremberg and the S-Bahn, U-Bahn, trams and buses in Nuremberg.





DB timetable



http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/en



From: FRA



To: Nuremberg



Best deal are the Rail%26amp;Fly tickets.



bahn.de/international/…rail_fly.shtml



The discounted specials shown by the DB timetable are only valid for the connection bought for. No change. No refund. That%26#39;s not without risk if your plane arrives late. Standard fare tickets are flexible and you can use any later train.





Prices are shown at earliest 89 days in advance. Mid of December is the yearly timetable change. The new timetable will be online end of October.